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IMAGE: Stephen Frick
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Preflight Interview: Stephen Frick

The STS-110 Crew Interviews with Stephen Frick, pilot.

Steve, tell me first about your mission in a nutshell: what are the main goals of STS-110?

Well, really the main goal is to get up to the International Space Station and add our main piece, which is the S0 truss. We see it as kind of the foundation of further development. We need to have power on the station to do the experimentation we need, and that's our job is to get the keystone for that up there so they can start adding to it.

STS-110 is your first mission as a member of the flight crew. What was it like for you to get the word that you'd been assigned to fly in space?

That was an interesting story. I was on vacation in England at the time with my wife, Jennifer. She had just finished her Ph.D. and we were celebrating with a tour around some of the cathedrals in that area. We came back to our bed and breakfast that night and found a note on the door from Charlie Precourt, the head of the Astronaut Office, that had asked me if I was interested in flying as a Pilot on STS-110. So the most difficult part was trying to find a phone so I could call back and say, yes, I was interested in that.

Well, tell me about, how did you get to be an astronaut anyway? I mean, what was, for you, the education and career path that got you qualified to become an astronaut?

Well, I think like most people I've been interested in it since I was a little boy watching the moon landings at home in…near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I was interested in flying, I went to the Naval Academy and became a Naval aviator, and after flying in the F-18 out of Jacksonville, Florida, I went to Test Pilot School and then I started realizing, now I'm starting to get the kind of education I need to maybe interest NASA. So I applied, and in 1996, on my second try, I got an interview and was lucky enough to be selected to come down to Houston and train as an astronaut.

You mentioned watching moon landings as a kid; is that why you wanted to be an astronaut? What is it that made this of any interest to you in the first place?

Well, it was certainly a great motivator not just that but watching the development of NASA as I got older. As someone who's interested in aviation and flying, there can't be anything more exciting than flying in space. And that just was reinforced by watching the Apollo program and then watching the shuttle program. And you just keep your eye on the goal and work towards it.

As you think back over your high school and Naval Academy and your Navy career, who are the people that you think have been the most influential in your life?

Well, I think the top of that list would probably be my wife, Jennifer. I was just married not quite two years ago, and that's changed my life a great deal and certainly, I think, helped me to prepare better for this mission than I would have been otherwise. In my Navy career my first flight instructor back when I was a midshipman was a retired Navy captain Dick Linnekin, and he was a great influence on me, both from his perspective as a Naval aviator and as a, just a great leader with a lot of Navy history behind him. And I had a number of good commanding officers in my various squadrons; Dennis Gillespie and Robert Stumpf, they helped me to learn a lot about what it takes to be a good pilot and what it takes to be a good Naval officer. And I certainly would have to include my parents, my dad, Neil, and my mother, Charlotte, for getting me going in the right direction.

Let's talk about your mission. You mentioned the primary payload being a piece of hardware that's known as the S0 truss. Introduce us to it: how big is it, where does it go, what does it do?

It's hard to get a perspective on it when you see pictures, and that's something that really strikes us. We go down to the Kennedy Space Center to look at the truss and get close-up views of all the parts we're going to be working on, and every time we go down we're astounded by the size of this thing. It's going to completely fill the payload bay, almost sixty feet long; it's about as heavy as we can bring up-tens of thousands of pounds to bring to orbit-and it's just full of equipment. It's a huge truss structure with computers and power converters and miles of cable and piping for the thermal control system. It's just an incredibly complex piece of gear that our four EVA crewmembers are going to have to get all that stuff hooked up in just four short EVAs so that it's ready to go for the next flight that's going to add truss structures onto the station.

Tell me a little more about the additional truss structures: S0 is going to be installed on top of the Lab, but it's going to end up being the base for another, building the station in another direction.

That's right. What I think about the station is, it's going to be just an incredibly unique opportunity for, really, mankind to do research and experiments that we can't do anywhere else. And in order to do any kind of meaningful research, everyone knows you need to have electrical power; without that, you're just not going to get anything done. And the only way we're going to get electrical power is to get these huge truss structures up there that have large solar arrays, as we've already seen with the P6 array that Mike Bloomfield and his crew brought up with their last mission. So we need to have S0 there as a building block so that we can attach all these solar panels on there and get enough power to do real research.

The S0 truss launches with you, carrying some other major pieces of equipment, notably the Mobile Transporter and a thing called the Airlock Spur. Tell me about what those components are.

Well, the Mobile Transporter I'm pretty interested in 'cause Mike Bloomfield and myself, along with Carl Walz and Dan Bursch, who are already up there, are going to do the first translation of the Mobile Transporter. It's a really critical piece because in order to add further truss structures onto the S0, as we build out in both directions, we need to be able to move the space station RMS around in order to be able to connect those things…got to have the crane out there if you're going to move the piece to the end, and the Mobile Transporter provides that. The next flight that's going to go up in May, UF-2, they're going to bring up the MBS, which is a structure that goes onto the Mobile Transporter, onto which you attach the arm. So we have to be able to move the Mobile Transporter back and forth across the truss so that we can continue to build the station.

And it moves across the truss how?

It looks like a small trolley, actually. It's got motors, it's got wheels that, it attaches to rails that are on the S0 truss, and it will be on every truss that we put up there, and it works just like a trolley car going down the street. We control it via computers on the space station, and we just send it from one end of the truss to the other, carrying whatever pieces we need to move.

You touched on the answer to this question, get you to expand on it a bit. Of all the things that are going to be done on this mission, there are seven of you and three station crewmembers with the necessary skills to accomplish [them]; what are your most important jobs on this mission?

Well, my most important job, I think, is to help get the crew safely to orbit and then bring us back to Earth at the end. Now once we're on orbit I'm really more of a support person: I'm there to make sure that our five mission specialists, who are either going to be doing EVAs or doing all the very complicated arm operations, along with Carl and Dan and Yury on the station side, I just have to make sure they have what they need to get the job done. For Ellen, who's going to be working the SSRMS, moving the truss out of the payload bay, attaching it to the top of the Lab, my main job, really, is to move the shuttle arm to where it can provide camera views to Ellen so she can see where she's going, and also handle all the video that we have on the orbiter to send that across to her, so it's really a support role. For the EVAs I have the opportunity on EVA 3 to move Steve Smith around on the shuttle arm to do some connecting some cables and moving some wires on top of the Lab and then again on the bottom of the Lab, so I'm pretty excited about the opportunity to do that. But really, it's just to make sure that they have what they need to do the complicated operations to get the S0 installed correctly.

First big event that comes along after you've successfully reached orbit is to dock Atlantis to the International Space Station. Tell me about what you do as part of the team, and describe for us the rendezvous profile.

Well, Mike Bloomfield and Ellen Ochoa keep reinforcing to us that it's going to be like nothing we've ever seen when you see the actual station out there. We have great simulators, and we have a good idea of how the shuttle's going to fly and what we have to do to get it safely docked. But when we get within about a thousand feet of the station and you look out the window and see that huge station looming up, it's going to really be exciting, and we're hoping we're going to still be able to concentrate on the task at hand. Mike Bloomfield, Ellen, myself, and Rex Walheim are the core folks that are going to be doing a lot of the work during the rendezvous, and then at the undocking. My job is really to make sure everyone stays on track: I have the checklist, and while Mike is busy flying and Ellen's busy making sure that all the information that we need about how close we are to the station, how fast we're closing on the station, is available to Mike, and Rex Walheim is going to be using our handheld laser ranger as a backup to make sure we know exactly how far away we are. I'm going to be just making sure everybody's right where they're supposed to be and getting things done on time.

Is the approach and docking on this mission similar to what we've seen the last several missions?

Hopefully, it will be very similar since they've gone quite well for a while. We're going to be coming up from the bottom of the station, like all the flights have, and then moving around into the front, and then coming slowly back towards the station until we dock. And as long as everything goes like it has in the past, it'll go just fine.

The agenda for the rest of that day after the docking is completed calls for some transfers and a dry run of the S0 installation. Tell me about what you're going to be doing during that time.

Well, one of the big things we have to do is make a lot of changes with our video system inside the orbiter between what we needed for docking, to show the camera views of the station, and what we're going to need the next day when we take the S0 out of the bay and install it on the Lab. So I'll be changing cameras and recording devices inside the orbiter while Ellen is working on the station side getting the arm ready to go. And then when we run through the dry run I'm going to be providing video and pictures to Ellen and Dan, who are going to be on the station side, so that they can see exactly where the arm is and exactly what they're going to need to see to take the S0 out of the bay. There's not much clearance on either the front or back or the sides, and it's a very delicate operation to take that huge truss out of the bay and move it all the way to the top of the Lab to get it ready to install within a few inches.

Before we get into the details of that installation or the other spacewalks, I'd like to get you to tell us a little bit about the plans for the use of the two robot arms, the shuttle's arm and the station arm. You and Ellen and Carl and Dan, among you as well as Mike Bloomfield some, are assigned to be running those two arms. Give us an overview, if you will, of how the strategy that's being used of how those two robots are going to help in this assembly task.

Well, it's an interesting bit of choreography. My main job, with Mike Bloomfield, is to keep the shuttle arm out of the way, because the station arm is doing all the heavy lifting work and for the, for three of the four EVAs, it's going to be the one that's moving the EVA crewmembers around to do their task. So I basically have to keep the station, the shuttle arm out of the way, but still in a position where I can provide the camera views that Ellen needs. And the way we do that, really, is only, we only move one at a time, we try not to move both arms together. The EVAs are almost eight hours long, so we have plenty of time to get done what we need, so it's just important to be slow and careful, and watch where we're going.

Well, the next day, Flight Day 4, is the day that S0 is to be installed, and that starts with robot arm operations hours before your crewmates come out the Airlock. Pick it up at the beginning of the day for us, if you would, and describe the processes that are going to lead to this installation.

Well, there are a number of hours before the EVA starts. The EVA crewmembers are very busy getting the suits ready, getting themselves ready to go outside. While they're doing that Ellen will be moving, along with Dan, the station arm into position to grapple the S0 truss and then lift it out of the bay, and move it all the way over to the top of the Lab-that's going to take quite a while for such a complicated maneuver. At the beginning of that I'm going to move the shuttle arm, along with Mike Bloomfield, over to the side of the shuttle to provide camera views so that Ellen can lift the S0 out of the bay and see the ends-to make sure she's clear-and then I move the shuttle arm over towards the Lab so that she can see the Lab Cradle Assembly, where she's going to attach it to the Lab. So we're moving both the arms around, we're lifting the S0 out of the bay, we're moving it all the way to the top of the Lab, and we're getting it actually, physically attached to the Lab, all before the EVA crewmembers come out of the Airlock. It's important to get as much done as we can early because, once they come out of the Airlock their clock is running and we don't want them to have to waste time waiting for us to get the S0 attached to the Lab before they can get going on their work getting the struts, which are going to be the main supports for the entire truss structure, attached to the Lab.

So Ellen and one of the station crewmembers will, in essence, snap the S0 onto the top of the Lab?

Well, really, it's everybody together. Carl will be, along with the EVA crewmembers, getting them ready; Ellen and Dan will be on the station side; Mike Bloomfield and myself will be on the shuttle side; and we'll all be working together to get that thing firmly attached before the EVA crewmembers go out.

All right; assume that that's done then, Rex and Steve are ready to go out the Quest, the door of Quest. Talk us through what happens then: what has to happen for those guys outside to complete the goals of EVA 1?

Well, the most important things are to get the truss structure firmly attached to the Lab, which are two struts, which they have to bolt on. It looks sort of like a NASCAR pit crew out there with a high-speed drill attaching the struts in. As long as they get the two struts attached and they get some electrical power on the truss, then we're in a good, safe configuration for the next EVA. And that's really the main goal, is to get ourselves set up for the next three EVAs and stay on track. We have a limited amount of time docked with station, and it's important that we don't take longer than we need to, to get the truss attached.

Well, in fact, on this spacewalk, there's something of a deadline that you all are working against in order to get power connected to the S0, right? What's the deadline, and what drives it?

Well, the problem we always have with any large space structure is thermal concerns. When you're up in orbit you're going from bright, harsh sunlight to dark, cold vacuum of space twice every hour-and-a-half. And with that kind of a harsh environment, a complicated piece of equipment like the S0 truss isn't going to last very long unless you get heaters on it so we can keep the thing warm when it gets so cold up there. So they're really trying to get it firmly attached so that it would be safe to undock the orbiter if we had to, and also get power on it so that the thing won't freeze before we can get out again the next day to continue connecting it.

Now as you said, the job in the first spacewalk is to attach a pair of these struts, to keep it in place; the job of the second EVA is to attach some more?

That's right. Jerry and Lee are going to go out the next day and attach the last two struts, and once we have all four struts firmly attached we're in a very good configuration to continue on with the other two EVAs. Those are both very difficult tasks, they are tasks that they can't replicate on Earth. These are huge, heavy struts; big pieces of metal that you just can't practice with on Earth. So the first time they'll be moving these things for real will be in space, so those are very important tasks.

On one spacewalk a pair of your crewmates have attached one set of struts, and on a second spacewalk they've attached a second set; what have you been doing during both of these? What is the role of the space shuttle arm?

Well, the shuttle arm for the first two EVAs, again, is, it's providing a backup role to the station arm. The station arm is moving Rex on the first EVA and Lee on the second EVA, all over the truss to mainly attach those four struts. They have to be firmly attached to the arm so that they can provide the torque they need with their large Pistol Grip Tool to get those bolts attached. So what I need to do is I need to stay out of the way, but still be in a position to give the camera views to Ellen to show how close the station arm is to the Lab and to the shuttle, and how close the EVA crewmembers are to things they can't see. They've got a huge EMU on-their spacesuit, with a large backpack and a big helmet-and it's very difficult for them to see a lot of the times how close their back is to the Lab or to the S0 truss. So we need to provide views so that we can tell how close they are and Ellen can keep, make sure that they don't hit anything they shouldn't.

Now, the third spacewalk of the mission is going to change the job that you've got to do because the work is going to involve shutting down the space station arm. Tell us what happens and what your role is going to be.

Since the S0 truss is going to be such a critical part of SSRMS options, or operations, in the future, we have to change a lot of the wiring so that it can be run from up there which like you said means we have to take the thing completely down, take all the power and the data capability away from it, which leaves only the shuttle arm to provide a strong support for EVA crewmembers. So we're going to bring the shuttle arm up on to the top of the Lab which is kind of an unusual position for it to be in-it was, wasn't really designed to go up there-so we have pretty narrow corridors we have to wind our way through to get up on top of the Lab to work. And then Rex and Steve are going to attach the foot restraint to the shuttle arm, and Steve is going to get on the arm and I'm going to move him around to make a lot of connections. He's got a large number of cables he's got to swap out on top of the Lab, and then we go all the way out, around to the bottom of the Lab-which should be kind of interesting to see on video because in order to get him there we have to swing Steve way out away from both the Lab and the shuttle, so he's going to have some views of both the station and the Earth that no one's ever seen before, being that far away. And once we get him to the bottom of the Lab he's going to change a lot more connections in order to re-power the station arm. And after that, at the end of the EVA, we should be able to power the station arm back up, and it should be in a good configuration for the rest of our flight.

Now the day after that spacewalk you'll be running the shuttle arm and working with Carl Walz to check out the Mobile Transporter. Tell me what you two do, and, as you did earlier, tell us more about what we might see that day.

Well, you know, a lot of the work is going to be behind the scenes. Probably while we're sleeping, the station flight controllers are going to be going through some very long checkout procedures of the Mobile Transporter to make sure everything's up and operating and ready when we're ready to move it. So, they're going to have worked for hours before we even get ready to go. And then Carl and I are going to get on the PCS, the control software on the station, and we're going to command the Mobile Transporter to move from its launch site-which is not any place where it's going to work in the future, it was just a good, safe place on the truss for it to be located to take launch loads-and we're going to move it to two worksites. We have one called worksite 4 and one called worksite 5 on the S0 truss. It's going to be exciting for us because it'll be the first time we'll get to see it move, but I've got to say it moves at an inch a second so I don't want people to get their hopes up too much about a NASCAR race up there on the truss.

But, it, as you say, after a lot of work that will be done by ground controllers, you folks will, what is it that you guys have to do up there to then allow, to continue the checkout and get it ready to move?

Well, really our most important role up there is as a safety observer. The commands we're going to send could be sent from the station; we're actually going to send them from the shuttle on the station laptop; and the reason we're going to be over there is because we can look directly out the overhead window and watch the Mobile Transporter as it moves. The software has been checked out on the ground and it's worked very well actually, when they've checked it out at the Kennedy Space Center on the truss, translating from end to end. But it's never been done in space, and if anything should happen that's not predicted or is unexpected, we want to be there, ready to just stop it and give us a chance to look at what happened and what we can do to fix the problem. So really we're safety observers: we're going to command it to leave one launch site, translate across, stop at the next one, plug itself back in, and then we're just going to be watching it very closely to make sure it does exactly what we expect it to do.

The day after that is when we're supposed to see the fourth spacewalk of the mission. Tell me what's on the agenda for that.

Well, it's really our last chance to get the truss in the right configuration for us to leave. They have some cleanup connections to make, they'll probably do some work to get ready for further spacewalks-collecting some tools, relocating some hardware so that when folks do spacewalks on UF-2 coming up in May or from the station on increments that they have what they need to be ready to go. And, but really, it's our last chance, it's our fourth EVA. When you're on the ground and you're planning these you don't really know how it's going to go; nothing ever goes exactly to plan. So we have that opportunity to clean up anything that has gone slowly or we've had problems on in the past, before we have to undock and leave the station.

Now, before you do that there is some other work on this mission, not spacewalk-related work, if you will…some transfer of supplies and delivery of experiments. Tell me a bit about the kinds of things that you folks are going to leave behind for the Expedition 4 crewmembers.

Well, there's the one I'm most interested in is the BPS. It's going to be a biological research experiment, which actually my wife, who works in Space Station Payloads, has been very interested in. And I'm interested in it, too, because I sleep right next to it on the shuttle during the days before we dock, so I'm interested to make sure that it's not too loud for me to sleep. But it's going to be a great research facility. We're going to transfer it across, and that's very carefully choreographed because it's a powered payload, and we have to make sure that it's not un-powered for too long, so we're going to work closely with Dan and Carl and make sure that they're ready to receive it and we're ready to bring it across, and then we're going to transfer some payloads back to bring back home. So as long as we choreograph that correctly, and get everything moving smoothly from one side to the other we should be in good shape.

Steve, you and your crewmates are going to be delivering things that are going to help advance the mission of the International Space Station as a science laboratory. Of course, it's also a place to develop technology and to do research and development, and learn more about how people can live and work in space. Finally, I'd like to get your opinion: what do you think is the most valuable aspect of the International Space Station?

A very complicated question. I think my answer is, that really I think there's two things. One is an opportunity to learn about things in an environment that we can't do anywhere else. This is a one of a kind opportunity to do research in space that can't be done anywhere else on Earth, or even in space, 'cause, since we're the only facility of our kind. So, learning about things that are going to help on Earth is a very important part of what we do. But I also think that the opportunity to spend months in space, like our increment crewmembers are doing, is the opportunity we need to learn the things we need to go farther out into space, to go to Mars or beyond. We have to learn what it takes to keep the human body healthy, and we have to learn the things we need from a technology point of view to be able to develop the equipment to go to Mars or beyond. And there's no way we're going to do that without spending long periods of time in space. The folks that are going up there for months at a time, they're making a big sacrifice to spend not only the time away from their family while they're in space but the tremendous amount of time it takes to train for a mission of that duration. But we're going to get things out of their experiences that we're going to need to be able to go farther.

That said, how do you feel about the idea that you get to play such an important, and a visible, role in the project?

Well, it's an exciting opportunity; we're only going to be up on station for really a few days, so I'm just going to get a taste of what it would be like to be up there longer. But it's really a great opportunity, to get a chance to be a small part of this team that's going to go and help to increase the capability and the size of the space station.


Curator: Kim Dismukes | Responsible NASA Official: John Ira Petty | Updated: 04/24/2002
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