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Preflight Interview: James Newman

The STS-109 Crew Interviews with James Newman, mission specialist.

Why did you want to become an astronaut? What made you want to become an astronaut?

Oh, when I was growing up, it was in the period when people were first going to the Moon. And, that was a very, very exciting time. I was about 13 when we landed on the Moon. And, I realized, watching those people work on that project, that it was a very exciting thing to be doing; Something important, important for the country, something important individually. And, I really liked that concept of service as well as an opportunity to challenge oneself. So, I decided that I'd like to try to do that. And, it's been a long, it was a long time coming; but it's been quite well worth it.

Can you briefly outline for us the academic and the career path that you've taken to achieve your goal of being an astronaut?

Sure. My uncle recommended that I go into the military and become a pilot and learn to fly and get into the Astronaut Office that way. But, I decided that, my real love was for science and technology, and that the right thing for me to do was to go and get a Ph.D., a physics degree, and to enter the space program as a civilian scientist, and to use those skills that I had developed in the laboratory to bring those into NASA as part of the team that makes up a successful spaceflight.

What's been your most memorable experience since becoming an astronaut, If you could just pick just one or maybe a few?

It'd be definitely while I was in space. And, there were, there were several. But most, very, very high on the list was my very first spaceflight, STS-51, which finally launched in September of 1993. And, when we first got to orbit it was, of course, exhilarating. But, we had tried, we had tried to launch three times unsuccessfully, we had scrubbed, inside of 20 minutes. And, once we'd even lit the main engines; and they had stayed on for about 3 seconds. And then, a sensor had failed, and shut them down. So, we were, we were anxious to get into space. And finally, when we did, I can remember getting out of my seat and going to the windows in the aft flight deck. And, the Orbiter was upside-down so that we were able to look and see the Earth below us! And, it was just a spectacular flight, a spectacular vision! If you've ever seen the IMAX movies of spaceflight, they almost capture it all. But, to be floating, to be seeing the Earth with my own eyes, was, was really spectacular!

Got to imagine there's nothing like that feeling.

Yeah, it, it's, so far it's been unique. The other one that really stands out is on the third flight that I was on, STS-88, in December of 1998. This was the holiday season, so we were up from, the 4th to the 15th. And, while we were up there, we had accomplished most of our tasks in assembling the, the International Space Station, the first two elements. And, what we'd do is, late in our evening, which was even later in the evening of the people in America, we were going over from south to north, going across the US, and at first across the eastern seaboard, and then we'd go across Texas and up, and, of course, we always go up through Canada, and then we'd cross to California. And, as we were going over, it was one of those unique times when the entire United States was free of clouds. And, it was maybe midnight-ish on the eastern seaboard; maybe a little later. And, we, all six of us were on board, and it was in our evening (as I said), so we'd already finished the chores of the day and we were winding down, getting ready to go to sleep, and we were all gathered up on the flight deck. And, as the space shuttle Endeavour, with the fledgling space station still attached, as we went over the Earth, we looked out across a continent of 275 million people; and we were looking at all of them, and knowing that they, most of them probably didn't even know we were there. But, it was very, very special in that holiday time of year. Very, very, very beautiful.

When all is said and done and, and you guys have completed your task up there on STS-109, personally and professionally, what impact do you think, being on that mission and doing what you guys are going to do, is going to have on you, having had such an integral part of such an important scientific tool?

Well, Hubble Space Telescope is truly a national treasure. So, it's quite a privilege to be assigned to go to work on the Hubble space telescope. So, what we're looking forward to doing is, after five demanding space walks, where we refurbish the entire telescope, really literally make a new telescope out of it, we're going to come back and wait for those first pictures. And, I think just feel very, a sense of pride at being part of the team, because it takes a huge team of people, innumerable people on the ground as well as the seven of us in space, to end up bringing to a point, to a focus, the efforts of all those people. So, I think it's being a part of that team that [has] made the Hubble Space Telescope what it will be in the future, is something that's going to be very exciting for us. The opportunity to contribute to a science instrument of such magnitude is rare!

It's a good transition into talking about the mission. So, let's do that. To help set the stage for what you and your crewmates are going to do, can you first give us some background on Hubble? Talk about why we even have Hubble. And, what it can do that some telescopes on the ground and some on orbit can't do.

For the technical details on some of that, John Grunsfeld will be a better person. But, from a science point of view, one of the problems with telescopes on the ground is the atmosphere. As we look through the atmosphere, typically the stars twinkle because of temperature and density gradients in the air cause the light not to go straight through, rather to bend and waver a little bit. Therefore, for telescopes on the ground, until very recently (and they still haven't achieved their full potential), is impossible for them to focus perfectly, just because of the wavering of the light. The goal was to get above the Earth's atmosphere in order to avoid all the problems associated with that. And then, that way they could have longer observing times and a very stable platform. And it enabled the telescope to, with great pointing accuracy, to, resolve some of the finest details, which is required in order to get a visual picture of the universe, to see the galaxies in detail and so on and so forth.

Can you discuss the main goals of the mission? And, talk a little bit about what achieving those goals will accomplish for Hubble.

The main goals of the mission, André, are really bound up in the five space walks. And so, I'll just give a quick mention of each of the space walks. The first one, for John and Rick, will be the replacement of the first of the old solar arrays. Mike and I will go out on the second day and replace the second solar array. On the third day, John and Rick will go back out (we always alternate one after the other, to give a day of rest between space walks); on the third day, John and Rick will replace the Power Control Unit (or PCU). It's the heart of the power system on Hubble, and that's a particularly challenging day. On the fourth day, Mike and I will go back out and replace an old camera (the Faint Object Camera) with the ACS (or Advanced Camera for Surveys). This camera is really the scientific highlight of the mission. It uses recent advances in CCD technology to literally improve the telescope 10-fold its ability to see into the universe. And finally, on the fifth day, John and Rick will go back outside in order to put a radiator and a cooler on in order to, refurbish an infrared detector which is now dormant because it no longer has sufficient cooling. In order to see in the infrared, they need a detector which is very, very cool because it's so sensitive to the, the infrared spectrum.

As MS-4, what is your primary responsibility on the mission?

My primary responsibility is as a member of the team of space walkers. Mike Massimino and I will be going out on the second and fourth space walks. And, as the experienced space walker of Mike and I, of our little section, then my job is to make sure that our space walks are well-choreographed, that Mike has the opportunity to learn what he can from those of us who have been outside before; and then when we go out together, we'll combine our skills to make a strong team in order to get our jobs done.

On flight day 3, you and your crewmates will rendezvous with, grapple, and eventually pull the telescope into the payload bay. Talk us through that scenario, if you will, and tell us what your duties will be during that procedure.

During the rendezvous, most everybody is busy at some time or another. It's a, it starts off the key players are the Commander, of course, and the Pilot and the Flight Engineer. Our Flight Engineer, Nancy Currie, is also our robotics operator. So, she will be not only involved in the rendezvous part of it when we're catching up to the Hubble and finally getting very close to it; but she'll then transition into the role of robotic, prime robotic operator, where she's responsible for reaching and grabbing Hubble once the Commander, Scott Altman, has flown the shuttle, Columbia, up to a stable position with respect to the telescope. So, in order, so the choreography of getting us close to the Hubble space telescope starts right at launch. We launch into about the same plane as the Hubble, and then typically we end up in a catch-up orbit where we are catching up to Hubble in every revolution; every time we go around the Earth, we get a little closer. The closer we get, the finer the degree of control has to be; because in the end we want to get within a few feet of the Hubble, and we start off perhaps many hundreds of thousands of miles away. The Commander and the Pilot will be responsible for performing those burns, with the help of the Flight Engineer. And, as we get closer and closer then, others of us start helping out as well. We bring in some computer assistance for situational awareness, a rendezvous and prox ops program, which I'll be running; and that brings all the sensors together in one place on a laptop that allows us to see where we'll be in the next 10 to 20 minutes, which is something that, in space, is hard to visualize. On the Earth, it's very simple. If I tell you I want to catch up to something that's out in front of me, I speed up until I catch it and then I slow down. Well, in space, it's just the opposite! Because things that are in a higher orbit go slower than things in a lower orbit, in order to catch up to something that's in front of us, the first thing we do is slow down a little bit so that we'll drop into a lower orbit, which on average goes around the Earth faster. So, by slowing down, we speed up. And then, after we've sped up for a while, we catch up. And then, in order to raise ourselves up to a high orbit to stay with the satellite, we have to speed up. And, speeding up actually slows us down on average. So, it's a different way of thinking about it when we go into space to do a rendezvous, which again on Earth is something as simple as catching up to something or slowing down to it and then matching speeds. In the end, we do simply match speeds. Once we're very close, the Commander will match speeds with the Hubble space telescope and keep it in a stable position so that Nancy can use the arm to reach out and grab the grapple fixture.

And, is there, any more details about what you'll be doing specifically during that time?

During the final phase of the rendezvous, Rick Linnehan is responsible for using the handheld laser, and that allows us to sort of like what the police officers or state troopers use when they're checking your speed in an automobile. We use that same piece of equipment in space with a slightly different frequency tuned for space use. But, using that laser, handheld laser, we can, once we get to about 1,000 feet from the Hubble, we can use that as a backup to the radar mode, which again, of course, we also use on Earth in order to keep track of our speeds on freeways and highways. And, then we can use that as a backup and then finally as a prime method of telling how far away we are from the Hubble, and how close we're getting to it. And then, again, I'll be making sure that all of that information comes together in the laptop computers that we use to enhance our situational awareness of where we are, where the payload is, and, and where we'll be in the next 10 to 15 minutes.

As you envision the mission unfolding, which activities (I know we mentioned the PCU and we'll get to more of that later), but which activities do you think will present the biggest challenges and why?

Right now we're thinking that the biggest challenge we'll have on the mission is probably the Power Control Unit, the PCU for short, is a box which was not originally designed to be removed or reinstalled by space walkers. It is what we call a difficult or marginally acceptable task, which by building very good tools and by doing a lot of training, we feel we've been able to mitigate the risk associated with doing a change-out like this. It's not really planned for a space walk. For a space walk, since we're working in pressurized gloves, our hands don't have the same level of tactile sense or strength even that we have in our bare hands. So, what they've done typically with connectors that are designed for a space walk is to make them oversize with large wing tabs on them, so you can easily operate them with a gloved hand. The connectors on the PCU are standard connectors with no special provision for space walkers. They're literally impossible to do with a gloved hand. So, we've developed a special tool which allows us to get in at sort of a pliers, which is a simplification, but a pair of special pliers which allows us to reach in to a double row of connectors (one set of connectors in front; another set in back), to reach in at an unfortunately, a difficult angle as well, so we're kind of actually doing it with our left hand and using our left eye in order to see what we can because we're kind of scrunched up against the door on the one hand and against the instrument itself, the PCU itself, on the other. So, we go through with this special tool to remove the connectors, and then we put in the new power control unit, which they have kindly put a 15-degree slant in so that sometimes we can get both eyes on it. And, then we put the connectors, back on. That's considered to be the most challenging because of the nature of the connectors. Typically, we try to avoid that kind of work. But, it's felt to be imperative in this case because the old Power Control Unit has started to exhibit some faults. There's some relays that have failed; and, in particular, one of the main bus bars is showing some resistance to ground. And, as a ground bus bar, it needs to have zero resistance to ground. So, the PCU (Power Control Unit) may fail at some point in the near future. And, in order to avoid that, because it would entail the loss of some science, quite a bit of science on the Hubble space telescope, until somebody else could come up and fix it, we're trying to make sure we do some preventative maintenance to ensure many years of successful operations.

Can you, having been on the ISS assembly mission, and, having trained for this Hubble mission, can you draw any similarities or differences between the two as far as logistics? What goes on on both of those missions?

The first, International Space Station mission, STS-88, Bob Cabana the Commander and then, five others of us, were filled with uncertainty because it hadn't ever been done before. So, we weren't quite sure how it was going to work. These two pieces of hardware that we were putting together, one built in Russia, one built in America; they'd never been put together before. So, we were all anxious and hopeful that it would work. And, it did work! It worked surprisingly well, which is a testament to the number of people who worked so hard on it. The same thing is true in many ways to the Hubble. There, it has a, a very strong record of success because of the number of people who have worked so hard on it. Now this is the fourth servicing mission, so the rendezvous, the grapple, the going in and out of the doors on the Hubble, these are not new tasks. But, what we're doing is a series of very highly choreographed, very challenging space walks to remake the telescope. And, so that, I think, is where the challenges really come in. Again it's an integration task. We have worked out what we feel the best sequence of space walks is in order to accomplish the, priority tasks. And, if there's a glitch, if the hardware ends up not fitting as expected (because Hubble has been in space for more than a decade and has never been totally powered down), so we expect that Hubble could throw us some surprises. And, that's where the two missions and any spaceflight, really, has its similarities, and that is that you never know what's really going to happen.

Talk a little bit, if you would, about how your experience on STS-51 helped you train for this mission and how you expect the experience to translate, up there with Hubble.

All of my spaceflights (STS-51, -69, and -88) have all been robotics-, and space walk-intensive. And from that point of view, STS-109 is another one just like that. It's a little more intensive in the space walk area; it still has a strong component of robotics; and it has very few other distractions. So, we're really going to focus on those primary tasks. So, what I see is that STS, my, the first flight I was on STS-51, was really very good training for all of the flights I've had since. It helped set a framework with a space walk that Carl Walz and I did on that flight. And, if we do fly in February as planned, Carl Walz will be on orbit again on the International Space Station with my other crewmate from STS-51, Dan Bursch. So, I'm hopeful we'll all be in space again at the same time. they'll be inside the lower orbit than we, so we'll have to wave down at them! But, it'll be very exciting to be in space the same time they are. But, I'd say the work that Carl and I did on our space walks set the groundwork for being able to be successful on STS-69, and then on my space walks on STS-88 as well. So, I hope to take all that experience, bring it to STS-109 (the Hubble re-servicing mission, refurbishment mission), and again have a successful flight.

Okay. Let's talk a little bit about some of the equipment if we can. First, we'd like you to give a brief description of the particular pieces of equipment, starting with the ACS. What does it do? And, how is it expected to enhance the telescope's ability? You touched on it a little bit earlier, but if you could just expound on it a little bit more.

Yeah. In general terms, the Advanced Camera for Survey, surveys, uses modern CCD (charge-coupled device) technology as the core of its camera. And, of course, we've always had CCDs, but, on the Hubble because we can't take film pictures on Hubble and get them back to Earth. So, we always use electronic devices. But, the Advanced Camera for Surveys is just that: it's very advanced, using very large CCDs of unprecedented quality and sensitivity. And, that's the heart of it. It's like a camcorder; all of our camcorders that we buy nowadays have these little CCDs in it. Well, Hubble's going to have a huge one and, a very, very sensitive one! And, it's going to be able to take pictures and integrate the pictures over long periods of time, and, therefore, be able to, using the optics and using the enhancements in the CCD technology, to deliver unprecedented quality and clarity of pictures.

For EVA-3, the telescope's power will be turned off since the first time it was launched. Why is powering down the telescope a particular concern?

One of the interesting parts about the Power Control Unit (the PCU) is that since Hubble has never been turned off in over a decade, think about when things break at home. Typically not during normal operation. Once they're running, they just run. But, if you turn something off and then it's when you turn it back on again, usually the light bulb will flicker out or the TV will crackle. So, we're all very concerned about when we power back on, are very interested in that process of when we power back on the Hubble Space Telescope after the Power Control Unit has been successfully replaced because we feel that it, it's really at that point that there is, there's actually probably our greatest risk to the telescope. And so, the Goddard Space Flight Center and the Hubble team have gone to extraordinary pains in order to analyze all of the equipment and to look at the redundancy that they have available in order to ensure that when we power things back on, that we'll have a successful telescope, an operating telescope to release once we're done.

Let's talk about the EVAs now, if we could, in more detail. On flight day 4, John and Rick are going to egress the airlock and start a series of EVAs for this mission. Can you take us through the timeline of EVA-1 and talk about what you and Mike are going to be doing inside the Orbiter for EVA-1?

During the space walks, obviously the focus of attention will be on the two space walkers outside. They're the ones doing the work. But, the way we organize it inside is also very important, although we're more of the behind-the-scenes people. We call the space walkers "EVAs," the extravehicular activity. And the space walkers themselves are EV-1 and EV-2. On the inside, it's called intravehicular activity, or IV. And so, I'll be, as the experienced person, I'll be running the IV side of the show and Mike will be watching me the first couple of times; then he'll be in charge of one of the later space walks as the IV. The IV, or the intravehicular activity person, actually is responsible for the checklist and for managing the space walk as it develops. If everything goes per plan, then we know approximately how long we think things will take and we'll be able to step right through things, one after the other. I'll be calling out the reminders to the space walkers of what they're expected to do next. I'll be telling them how tight to tighten the bolts, what torque settings to set on the power tool in order to loosen the bolts, when to do the various activities they're doing, really, the real-time choreographer. If things start to, if problems occur, for example, then Mike and I work as a team. He's responsible for backing me up, making sure I don't miss anything, making sure that we have the right checklist open, the right information at our fingertips. If something, if a bolt weren't to turn, for example, say it were stuck, then what we have is a, what we call a "crib sheet," a list of, for every bolt that we're going to touch. What we can do. How high a torque can we torque on it before it'll break, for example. What do we want to do if this doesn't work? What do we want to do if that doesn't work? So, together Mike Massimino and I will be the IV team. Nancy at that time, Nancy Currie, the robotics operator, she's the prime robotics operator, so she'll be flying the arm around with one of the two space walkers on it. And, they will then be able to carry around large pieces of equipment, the solar arrays or anything else that we need moved from one place to another. Now, her backup there is Scott Altman, the Commander. And, he'll be helping out where, whenever she needs help with her systems. So on the inside we also have a very tightly choreographed and rehearsed support group. Our goal is to support the space walkers while they're outside to make sure they know what they need to know and to be able to, as efficiently as possible, use that space walk time. Going on a space walk is inherently dangerous. One has to be aware of the risk. But, we manage them carefully so we feel very comfortable doing them and, in particular, in the service of a telescope like Hubble.

Are your and Mike's, IV activities, do they differ from day-to-day, or will they basically stay the same?

What we'll do is, since every space walk is different, we'll have different activities. But, the concepts will be very, very similar. We'll have set up the team. I'll lead the first two space walks, for John and Rick. That'll be space walk number 1 and space walk number 3. And then, I'll give Mike the reins. He'll be the lead for the fifth space walk, and I will support him. That way, again, we're mentoring the new guys, bringing them up to speed so that they will be able to provide the experience base for the future flights where they are space walkers and lead space walkers. On EVA space walks 2 and 4, John Grunsfeld will be the lead IV for the second space walk, and then he will transition to Rick Linnehan to bring him up to give him an opportunity to be the lead IV, the lead choreographer on the, on the fourth space walk.

On flight day 5, you and, Mike are scheduled to go out and, perform EVA-2. Can you talk a little bit about what will happen? Take us through the timeline of what you guys will do? And, talk about any differences there might be between EVA-1 and EVA-2 outside.

Mike and I will be going out on the second space walk on flight day 5. And, currently we, if we assume that everything went well on the first space walk, then John and Rick will have replaced one of the old solar arrays with one of the new solar arrays and done a little bit of get-ahead task in preparation for the really hard day space walk 3. Mike and I have a similar day on the second space walk, but we don't have as much initial configuration to do. Since John and Rick are the first ones out the door, they have to do a little bit of initial configuration in order to set up the payload bay for the rest of the space walks. And, they'll do some final de-configuration on the very last space walk. When Mike and I go outside, I'll immediately head back and get to work and Mike will take a couple of minutes, just to get his space legs. He will have an opportunity to translate a little bit around in the payload bay in order to become familiar with what it's like to be a space walker, and then we're going to put him right to work as well. He'll start off on the arm, and will immediately go to work, getting ready to take the old solar array off and stow it in preparation for taking the new solar array up out of the bay. And, Mike will in the end handle that by himself for a certain period of time as Nancy maneuvers him around so that we can install it into the telescope. I'll be working on the telescope at that time myself, and driving the bolts, changing out diode boxes and, in general, working with Mike. He'll bring equipment up there, and I will install some of it. I'll give him old stuff, and he'll take it away. Towards the end of the space walk, Mike and I will swap roles on the arm in order to give him some experience with the space walking task while he's not on the arm in preparation for our next space walk. So, I'll be on the arm for the very end of the space walk; and Mike will have an opportunity to what we call "free float." He'll maneuver around throughout the payload bay and on the telescope by himself without the assistance of the arm. The arm is really a very useful platform to work from. So, I always enjoy being on the arm. It, with both of your feet stabilized, then you have both hands free to work wherever you need to. When you're a free-floater, you have to use your hands to crawl around. And, we call them space walks; but in truth, they're really space crawls because there's nothing to walk on in space. So, we actually crawl on handrails from one place to another. And, it's very hand-intensive. And so, it'll give Mike and myself a good refresher on what the other's on, on what the other side is like.

EVA-3 is the only scheduled space walk, scheduled for more than 6½ hours. Why is it expected to run longer than the rest of the EVAs?

The PCU change-out is, right now, timelined at 7 hours. And, that's for planning purposes. When John and Rick go into the pool, into the Neutral Buoyancy Lab, they are able to get it done in 6½ hours. The 6½ hours includes a 20% margin, which means that it actually only takes them a little less than 5 hours, 20 minutes. But, we add 20% to that time just for the differences between the NBL and (the Neutral Buoyancy Lab, the big swimming pool) and spaceflight. Because there's always differences and you're not sure whether it'll take you longer or a shorter amount of time to actually do the task. To be conservative, to be prudent, we take what, however long it takes us in the pool and add 20% just for a safety margin. And then, because PCU has all these connectors I was describing that may or may not be easy or difficult with the special tool, they added an extra half-an-hour just for those connectors in case some connectors are particularly hard, in case we can't get the old PCU off because one of the nut plates was to spin. So, we've added in some extra safety margin. If everything goes well, they could be done early. If things don't go well, they could spend some extra time outside.

In general terms, what is the purpose of a breakout planned strategy and how did this concept come about?

The Hubble space telescope is a very, very important piece of astronomical, of our astronomical observatory. It's the, the jewel. And so, every day when we finish with our space walks, we're supposed to leave it, we, it's desirable to leave the telescope in a safe-to-deploy configuration. And, that's because you never know what could happen overnight. It is extremely unlikely that anything will happen, but a fuel cell could fail, a micrometeorite could make a small leak in the Orbiter. Something could happen. Very unlikely, but something could happen that would result in the need for us to very rapidly deploy the Hubble space telescope. And, in order to make sure that we don't lose the capabilities of the Hubble, we want to leave it in a safe configuration whenever we can. Just in case. So, on the PCU day, because it may run long (if things don't go well), they want to have some breakout points where they can say, "Well, it looks like it's just going to take too long today. We're not going to be able to get it done. The space walkers will run out of oxygen, or they'll run out of lithium hydroxide to scrub the carbon dioxide out of the air, or they'll run out of battery power. So, if they're going to run out of time, then we need to be able to leave the telescope as safe as possible." And, that's what the breakouts are designed to do, is to leave the telescope hopefully in a safer deploy configuration which would then, if something were to go wrong with the space shuttle, we could deploy it and it would be safe until the next crew of astronauts could come up and finish whatever job it was we were on.

Why is the successful completion of EVA-3 so critical to the future operation of the telescope?

The third, space walk, EVA-3, is critical not just to the future operation of the telescope because of the Power Control Unit itself (it gets the power to all the instruments), it's also critical to even finishing the space walks as planned. Because we have so much to do and only five space walks to do it in, we need to try to finish each space walk on its day. And, because PCU is the potential challenge, and things are so highly choreographed, if we don't finish that one and Mike and I have to go out, for example, the next day to finish the job, then we may not have a chance to finish all of the Advanced Camera for Surveys work, depending on what was wrong with the PCU. And then, that might then take the next day of John and Rick to finish up the Advanced Camera for Surveys. And then, we still want to get this infrared detector, because that's one of the really fantastic detectors that, it discovered this dark energy concept, just recently for example, which is revamping the way we think about the expansion and contraction of the universe. So, it's really desirable to get all these done. And, that's sort of the, the lynchpin there, is the, if we don't get that one done, it may impact what we do on the other space walks. It may necessitate adding a sixth space walk that Mike and I would then do in order to complete any tasks that weren't completed on the first five space walks. And then, again, just from the simple point of view of if the Power Control Unit doesn't work properly, then it may not direct power to some of the necessary instruments. Which would, of course, impact the, the future of the telescope.

Good deal. On flight day 7, you and Mike are back outside Columbia for EVA-4. Can you take us through that EVA and explain to use what you'll be doing up here?

On the fourth space walk, when Mike and I go out again, we will swap roles. We will have Mike start out as the free-floater and I will get immediately onto the robotic arm. And, in that way I will be responsible for the removal of the old instrument and the insertion of the new one from the end of the arm. These instruments are hundreds of pounds (700, 800 pounds), and so it really makes sense to use the robotic arm with a person on it to move them around. While I'm doing that, Mike will be providing the hands-on, at the telescope. He'll be driving bolts as well, helping me open doors, and doing a number of other tasks. So, it's similar to what I was doing on the, on the first time Mike and I went out. And, but, on the first time Mike and I go out, he'll be handling the large stuff on the arm; the second time, I, I'll be doing that. Once we have completed the extraction of the old instrument and the installation of the ACS, then again, Mike and I will swap our roles on the, on the arm; and we'll go back to the back of the spaceship, back of the payload bay and we'll get out the ESM. And, that particular piece of equipment is used as part of the NICMOS cooling system. And so, we will be bringing them, installing that in preparation for the next day. So, what we're going to do, once we finish the main task, which shouldn't take the whole space walk, we do some cleanup from the previous day and we do some get-ahead for the next day.

The ACS is, from my understanding, the most important component of the mission. What are your thoughts about having such a critical role in its installation?

When Mike and I first started training for this flight, the order of the space walks was a little bit different. And, Mike and I were responsible for doing the PCU, which is also an important and a very challenging task and John and Rick were doing the ACS, the Advanced Camera for Surveys. When they swapped it, it was kind of good news/bad news thing. 'Cause we, were no longer were responsible for PCU, which is expected to be quite a challenge; but we now were responsible for this very delicate, very, very expensive, very, very important instrument. And, Mike and I are both very excited actually to be doing it. It's a, as part of the team, it doesn't really matter who has hands on when we do this. It's all really part of the team, and we're all working at it together. We all succeed or fail together, as a team. But, we, we're not totally sad to be doing the Advanced Camera for Surveys. It's a very exciting instrument. We're looking forward to being able to say to our children someday that we helped as part of the team that took some of these new pictures.

Something happened with Hubble, at some point last year that made it necessary to add a new task. Can you tell us what happened with Hubble? And what the result is? And what you guys are going to do.

One of the reaction wheel assemblies (RWAs, for short) did experience a sensor failure last year. The speed sensor, tachometer sensor tells the ground how fast this reaction wheel is spinning, stopped functioning. And what the ground determined, the Hubble space telescope control center determined was that that wheel is still spinning normally. So they're still able to point the telescope (because that's what these reaction wheel assemblies are for is for the accurate pointing of the telescope and holding it stable that allows them to take these unprecedented pictures that we see so often). They determined that the reaction wheel assembly's working well enough and is understood that they can continue operating Hubble. It's not an impact. So from the point of view of impact to any science, observations astronomy that they're doing, there hasn't really been any. However, there's a possibility of another failure resulting, which would then cause Hubble to be unable to point accurately enough to continue doing its observations. And therefore, fairly late in the program, in the training flow, they have added a new task, which is to swap out the reaction wheel assembly that has had a problem. And, it's timelined at a little bit over an hour of a task. So it's not a large task. It's not a complicated task. And we see this as something that won't really be in the end all that difficult to train for.

And it is a task that's been done on Hubble before,--

Right. It has been done. It was, last, in fact, the same, this same reaction wheel assembly that has experienced the failure was the one that was changed out on the second servicing mission, STS-82. And we've talked to Mark Lee who performed that change out; and learned from him what we could. And what he basically said was that it took them about as long, about 45 minutes, about an hour to do, as they had trained for in the big water tank. And that…[we] should expect no surprises. That it's fairly straightforward. A very, only four connectors, three bolts. And so…inside…one of the bays.

And are there things that have moved as a consequence of this new task?

Yes. We, the timeline that we had choreographed for the five space walks prior to the addition of this task was optimized for the tasks that we had. And also based on the priorities. So the reaction wheel assembly is the number one priority now for the flight because it is the one potential threat to doing science with the Hubble space telescope to do any more astronomy. So it's the highest priority. But since it's a relatively short task and straightforward, we don't have to do it on the first day. So we found an opportunity on the second day where we can move a few things around, move them out to other space walks; and so Mike and I will go out and do it the last thing that we do on the second day. And if it turns out that for whatever reason the solar array that Mike and I are changing out on that day runs a little long, then we can always have a backup time for that on the fifth space walk. So it is a high priority. But it's a fairly straightforward task. It did cause us to move around some of the other tasks in order to fit that in. And of course, when it, with any change like that, you have to rethink it, make sure that the changes you make still make sense, that you've got the right tools with you. And that's the most important thing. You've got the right tools and the right procedures in place to ensure that, with this change, you'll still be able to get the job done.

What's it been like, having to start training for a new task so late in your preparation for the mission? You guys were in a good groove and pretty much fully trained for the mission.

Yeah. Since it was a fairly straightforward task, it hasn't been too difficult to add it in. Mike and I have had an extra training run. We're going to get one more extra training run in order to make sure we've got all our choreography down. We took an extra trip to Goddard Space Flight Center in order to look at the hardware in the high-fidelity simulator that they have there. And we'll look at it again at the Kennedy Space Center. So, taking these extra trips, doing a little bit of extra training, we're able to add it in, I think, without much trouble. The bottom line being that, for most space walks, you want to learn a set of skills. Being outside, how to use the equipment? Where the things are. And then once you have those generalized skills, you want to apply that to the task that you're doing. So even if something changes on orbit, we have got all of the training that'll allow us to come forward and do whatever it is that's required. Even if it's not in the same order! Because anything could happen. Hubble usually throws a surprise or two to the team. And so, if we're lucky, everything will go just as planned. But if it doesn't, we have got the training and the background, the skills to enable us to go out and do whatever tasks are required.

Are you guys approaching this with some sense of enthusiasm? Like, well, here's something else we can do! You know. Or is it, is there more enthusiasm, I guess, just about being able to do something else on the telescope, I guess?

Yeah. We are glad to be able to do this; and we know it's important. And that's why people really just want to go and do their jobs. And since this is, and we want to do it well; we really need to. So we're taking it seriously. So on the one hand it's fun to do something new, something a little different. But on the other hand, we are, even though it's a relatively short task, we're taking the appropriate steps to make sure that we've got the right conservatism built in. Hubble is such a national asset that a number of people have mentioned to us, starting with the Administrator and others have let us know how important it is to them and to the Agency and to the scientific community that our part of the bargain, our part of the team do its job well. And so we're taking that very seriously. And we're applying that same rigor, that same margin, conservatism, to this task as we do to any other. We want to make sure that we do our jobs and do them well.


Curator: Kim Dismukes | Responsible NASA Official: John Ira Petty | Updated: 04/07/2002
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